Operation Sealion 1941 – Part 9b
Operation Sealion 1941 – Part 9b The Third Day - Dawn to Mid-day Unlike the Germans who had to transport everything over the English Channel the British had a much easier task bringing reinforcements...
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On April 15, 1941 BMNT was 0347 local, sunrise 0447, sunset 1912 and EENT 2016. How long are you thinking it takes to make the crossing?
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Possibly the second wave could land at night, that isn't an assault. HMS P may be able to give us the maths for the timings. The RN losses off of Crete won't be repeated here, they have their own...
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hedgehog6 wrote:Why don't the Germans give up on night-time convoys? At this stage in the war, the Jagdwaffe is still quantitatively and qualitatively superior to the RAF fighter force. Why not run a...
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Why do I get the feeling Lutzow is going to have an encounter with Force H?
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hedgehog6 wrote:Why don't the Germans give up on night-time convoys? At this stage in the war, the Jagdwaffe is still quantitatively and qualitatively superior to the RAF fighter force. Why not run a...
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HMS Pinafore Thanks for clarifying on the points raised and a good one about which pocket BS is sailing. Larriki22 Good summary of why day-time convoys won't work. I would also say that with their...
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Steve, in terms of the RN operating in the Channel it is interesting to have a look at the Luftwaffe's performance 12 months earlier during the evacuation from Dunkirk. They only managed to hit one...
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The Jagdwaffe was qualitatively superior to every opponent for the first 3 years of the war, before going into gradual decline due to attrition and poor support from the training base. They were not...
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Hedgehog, So what happens when the RN decline the Luftwaffe's invitation, wait for the barges to anchor off the beaches (or try unload at night) and then send in the destroyers and MTB's on stationary...
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Here is my schedule: German convoy begins marshalling just outside their ports, but inside their defensive minefields sometime after midnight, timed to clear the exit lanes just after BMNT. Luftwaffe...
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Any plans for moving the convoys must take into account the limitations that exist for the Germans: Most of the tugs and barges are not really seaworthy for anything other than reasonable weather....
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Day convoys would FAIL even worse, because in daylight the RAF's aircraft would have a field day, and it would be even easier for the RN.
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You add air cover for the Germans but RAF fighters and day bombers, longer range RN fire and coastal and rail guns to the British response. Note that the LW fighter force has moved on since the last...
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..or slow boat to Camber? It will take them more than 4 hours to cross the Channel, even from Calais to Dover. German plans assumed that they could land a wave of troops ashore in SE England every 48...
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hedgehog6 wrote:Here is my schedule: German convoy begins marshalling just outside their ports, but inside their defensive minefields sometime after midnight, timed to clear the exit lanes just after...
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And fail they may. It was always a high risk endeavor. The most likely and believable, IMHO, cause of failure is that the Germans don't have the shipping lift to match the rate of force build-up that...
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So bomb the Germans at night, they aren't going anywhere. Alternately give the JGs the choice of attacking British bombers with a huge fighter escort or abandoning the troops ashore. ISA the RAF now...
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Given that the wunderwaffe failed to achieve air superiority over Dunkirk, failed to achieve air superiority over south east England, and only had short periods of air superiority in North Africa I...
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At this juncture, I think we may as well agree to disagree, as that is all we are likely to agree on. I suspect the author already has in mind the direction he plans to go anyway, so it is fairly moot.
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Fun stuff. As far as dealing with the Luftwaffe, we do well to remember that while OTL DDs at sea with maneuvering room were vulnerable, as Kelly, Kashmir et al showed, but it sometimes took quite a...
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